Friday, August 10, 2007

Latino Review's Dark Knight Spoilers - UPDATED AGAIN

I have one gem of a Dark Knight piece and hopefully, I'll be able to publish it very soon. It's a corker. It's something people really want to see...

In the meantime, I missed the Latino Review piece and have been asking around, looking for some idea of what they had originally posted. This is the best I can do at the minute, but please, please, if you have any more info, please let me
know. Obviously, this is a post jam packed full of spoilers, and if you're at all worried about that, don't read on. At all.

The police get rather distracted by the 'fake Batman' I told you about before.

Harvey Dent is 'Two Faced' by The Joker. It happens rather late in the story, but there's still time for him to seek revenge.

Batman prevents Two Face from killing The Joker, and this is when Dent finally goes utterly nuts.

The Joker manages to get Batman's identity out of Rachel Dawes, but Bruce uses the fake Batman to his advantage to confuse The Joker and get away with it.

Dawes dies.

[EDIT:And now, thanks to Tourettes Haiku I have even more. Here's the spoiler material - possibly verbatim - from the Latino Review piece:

THE BATMAN WANNABE: There’s a fake Batman roaming the streets of Gotham City. He's 'for' the cops, they believe that he's the real Batman. And it's a connection to the Batman Begins scene with Bruce, Henri Ducard, Ra's Al Ghul and many ninjas, the 'invisibility' scene.

THE BAT-POD: The “motorcycle” is not a part of the Thumbler (the ‘Batmobile’ vehicle Batman drove in Batman Begins), it's another Lucius Fox's gadget. The Bat-Pod has one big action sequence in the film.

TWO-FACE: Many have clamored for information since it was revealed that Harvey Dent (played by Aaron Eckhart) will become Two-Face in The Dark Knight. However Two-Face has only one scene, which comes at the end of the film.

RACHAEL DAWES: Remember the Joker’s dialogue in the trailer? TONIGHT PEOPLE WILL DIE, I’M A MAN OF MY WORD” It’s from a big party scene where the Joker (Heath Ledger) kidnaps Rachel Dawes (now played by Maggie Gyllenhaal) and she tells the Joker that Bruce Wayne is The Batman. However Batman has a scene in the film with the Joker and through some trickery has The Batman and Bruce Wayne in the same room. This causes Joker to think that Bruce Wayne is NOT Batman and that Rachel lied to him. Rachel is also having an affair/having a romance with one of the main characters of the film and, no, it is not Bruce Wayne.

THE BIG FINALE: Someone dies - a main character dies. We aren’t going to tell you who dies but what we can say is that promotional materials already reveal who dies, you just have to look for it. You can slice through Latino Review’s Dark Knight photos and find the huge clue? IT COULD! However this is a big fight at the end in which Harvey wants his revenge, wants to kill The Joker, but Batman stops him and Harvey is going crazy. And now he is against The Batman.

The Joker now knows that Bruce is Batman, but Harvey does not.

Most of this is stuff we've heard before - indeed, some of it is in that spoiler video I posted a long time ago - but some of it is new. What's more, there's plenty of stuff not revealed. For example: how Harvey Dent is involved in the trickery that makes Batman and Bruce Wayne appear in the same room; how many doubles and pairs there are throughout the film - Batman/fake Batman, Batman/Joker, Two Face, the two boats of hostages and so on...]

[EDIT: And BrokenUnion are now disputing these spoilers outright]


Anonymous said...

This is probably right. I was expecting the mob boss to Two Face Harvey, but the Joker is just as good. The Joker must inflict pain on all three of the Batman, Harvey, Gordon, team. I don't yet know what happens to Gordon. I thought Gordon would stop Batman from murdering the Joker, but this is even better.

With Dawes out of the way, Batman can get back to pimpin'.

Anonymous said...

For your American readers: What's a "corker"? Does the term imply something mind-bendingly awesome? ("Have you seen Werner Herzog's Wild Blue Yonder? It's a corker!") Or something completely underwhelming? ("Have you tried wearing pants? It's a corker of an experience!")

Anonymous said...

To further speculate,
I suspect that Anthony Michael Hall is playing both the fake Batman and Edward Nygma. Essentially, Nygma could be an employee of Wayne Enterprises. Lucius Gets the Batsuit for repairs. It is stolen by Nygma. Nygma shouldn't know Batman's secret identity, but he will know Wayne Enterprises is providing toys. Nygma goes joyriding in the suit. I think this is where he fights the Scarecrow in the garage, I didn't believe Batman would walk into his traps and the footage shows Batman getting hit with the toxin. After the Joker finds "Batman" standing next to Bruce, he will kill Rachel for lying to him. The suit would have to be the old suit so it would be convincing enough to the Joker. This would set Bruce off into a rage, beating the fake Batman to a bloody pulp, an alteration of the rumor that he kills the fake.

Harvey gets faced for pretending to be Batman, after he has to make a choice between people's lives a la the two barges and a coin toss. I'm guessing this will happen at the middle of the second act. Rachel's death will be the end of it. Harvey wants revenge for both.

This leads me to believe the third act will involve 3 villains. Let me explain. I still think this is where Gordon is kidnapped and gets his dose of pain from the Joker, Harvey will be en route to kill him. Batman shows up and stops Harvey.
The Riddler is the third villain, except he is not Batman's foe, but Wayne's foe. He will attack the computers of Wayne Enterprises with "riddle viruses," something like that, in revenge for the beating Wayne gives him.

This is my speculation on what happens.

Harmen said...

So Brendon...

Do i detect a hint of optimism about the Dark Knight in this piece or what?

Mark Kardwell, at work. said...

The best Batman film so far, BATMAN RETURNS is all about duality, too. Keep that juicy subtext, and up the comicbooky action, and they could be on to a winner.

Anonymous said...

Bring on the corker!

Anonymous said...

Batman Returns is a Tim Burton fetishistic exercise, not a Batman film.

Brendon said...

Being a film with Batman in, Batman Returns is, by definition, a Batman film. And, for what it's worth, it's the best Batman film.

Maybe some people with some stiff, stubborn ideas of what Batman is and should be - stiff, stubborn and frankly irrelevant - then, perhaps, Batman Returns isn't ideal.

But judging the film so far made that have Batman in, it is easily the smartest, best made and most worthwhile.

Adam said...

There's a difference between having a character named Batman in a film and having the DC Comics character Batman in your film.
While I can appreciate the Burton films as Burton films, they aren't Batman films in the slightest. In fact, the maligned Shumacher films are closer to the comics (at least the Dick Sprang era comics) than the Burton films.
Nolan may have futzed with continuity and the history of the character slightly in setting his Gotham in a more real world, but he and his collaborators have nailed the character of Bruce Wayne. None of the previous films even bothered to make Batman more than a cypher that the various gaudy villains could play against. These films are about Bruce's journey. Anything else simply isn't a Batman film.

Anonymous said...

I like the way Batman Returns uses 1950s designs for art direction, the dialog avoids melodrama very well, and the characters are all interesting. The Catwoman storyline is very good, and Michelle Pfeiffer is the most iconic Catwoman for me. I'm not terribly into the Penguin storyline of the story, but otherwise it is a great film. I'm a fan of the Keaton Bruce Wayne as he had something magnetic about his personality and the style with which he played the character. I like that manner better than Bale's, but I do like the spoiled rich kid subtext Bale brings.

Batman Begins has a much better manner of using the characters of the Batman comics, the only thing that I would criticize is the dialog which falls into melodrama on many occasions.

Rickey Henderson said...

I would advise against trashing Burton. His vision of Gotham city is far better than Nolan's. Sorry folks, but Chicago just doesn't cut it.